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На мой взгляд, книга написана плохо, но тема интересная и полезная.

Содержит ряд (и даже много) интересных мыслей.

Самая, пожалуй, полезная для меня лично – что люди не всегда ведут разговор с целью достичь взаимопонимания и взаимной пользы (диалектика). Не то чтобы я раньше этого не знал, но у Б этот феномен описан очень выпукло. Это знание поможет не поддаваться на провокации.

Позитивный посыл – предложение (хотя прямо и не высказанное) анализировать не то, ЧТО тебе сказали, а то ЗАЧЕМ это было сказано. Мне кажется, что на человека, действующего в полном смысле осознанно, черная риторика не может оказать влияния.

Также представляет собой полезный «чеклист», который можно быстро пробежать при написании выступления и сделать некоторые заготовки на предвидимые случаи.

Некоторое сомнение вызывает предложение отвечать грубостью на грубость: если партнёр сам себя дискредитирует, зачем ему мешать это делать да еще и самому становиться хамом в глазах аудитории?

Вообще, тема восприятия черной риторики аудиторией не раскрывается. Более того, в некоторых примерах Б пишет, что несмотря на риторические ошибки (?) одного из спикеров, он получил работу/заказ, так как заказчик был убеждён в его компетентности.

НО:

Книга бессистемна, не подводит общей теоретической базы, которая позволила бы самостоятельно развивать тему. Нет сносок. Список литературы в конце не даёт возможности точечно углубить понимание, т.к. непонятно, что к чему относится. Результат – предложенные техники можно использовать как «фокусы», но шаг влево, шаг вправо выбьют пользователя из колеи.

Сама книга написана в значительной степени в манипулятивной манере. Ощущение, что предназначена для рекламы услуг автора в значительно бОльшей степени, чем для просвещения читателя.

Складывается впечатление, что автор – чрезвычайно харизматичный человек и, вероятно, превосходный ритор, но либо не хочет, либо не может поделиться самой сутью техники. Либо же сам ею в полной мере не владеет, а выезжает за счет харизмы.

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Одна из первых стОящих книг, которые я прочла по теме публичных выступлений и ведения переговоров. В отличие от 99 процентов переводной бизнес-литературы, в которых в рамках одной книги по кругу сто раз повторяется одна и та же мысль, здесь полезных мыслей гораздо больше ))). Реально использовать все не получится, конечно, т.к. некоторые советы- это чистая манипуляция. Но! Прочитав книгу, Вы будете четко понимать, когда и как манипулируют ВАМИ! С этой точки зрения очень полезное чтение.

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понравилось. интересно и живо написано, много примеров. нет банальных советов. унесла из книжки много полезных инсайтов.

но глава про виды вопросов показалась затянутой и слишком теорией в вакууме.

в целом – рекомендую, если хотите поднатореть в спорах и убеждении.

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Есть интересные выдержки в книге. И тому, кто хочет основательно изучить Чёрную риторику, эта книга будет осень полезна, если следовать всему, что там написано.

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Книга неплохая, но напоминает результат работы стенографиста с тренинга. Читать иногда тяжело из-за того что стиль языка плавает между деловым и разговорным. Пол страницы теории и большие примеры из жизни в подтверждение своих слов. В конце каждой главы имеются практические упражнения. Для знакомства с данной темой хорошая книга.

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Я слышал, что у вашей фирмы плохая репутация.

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«Макс Фриш сказал однажды: «Если ты думаешь, что узнал истину, подай ее другому, как подают пальто, чтобы удобнее было надеть, а не тычь ею в нос, как мокрым носовым платком». В данном случае это был именно мокрый носовой платок – к сожалению!»

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Учитесь отличать высказывания по существу обсуждаемых вопросов от тех, что направлены против вас лично. Последние решительно пресекайте – а потом можете демонстрировать собственное превосходство на содержательном уровне.

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Выбор средств в риторике имеет решающее значение; ее шкафчик с ядами – не для слишком щепетильных, и каждая отрава имеет бирку с гарантией результата.

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Карстен Бредемайер Черная риторика: Власть и магия слова

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